An Essential Question

Let me get to the points you made about ghosts and haunting Hesselius, as my post for today. It makes a change from talking about myself, so here goes!

I think you basically asked if ghosts could exist in an ‘in between state’ ( presumably you mean between this world and the next) and if such ‘beings’ are accordingly able to leave this ‘earthly world’ to advance to a ‘higher plane or whether they are somehow trapped (or entrapped between the two). You also mentioned the possibility that as many ‘ghosts’ have been photographed on staircases, this might indicate some sort of ‘transition period’ between this world and the next. These are very fair questions, or points, and I think they deserve an accurate answer; at least, as ‘accurate’ as I can give speaking personally here.

I’m not so sure that ghosts are ‘trapped spirits’ on the earthly plane. It is possibly they might not be as such, but have no ‘active intelligence’ whatsoever. They might well be reflections of an intelligence that once existed, but this is essentially different. A ‘reflection‘ might not necessarily be ‘intelligent‘ (retain all of its previous earthly thought patterns and characteristics) but might still be able to reflect these in a non-intelligent state. What do I mean?

 

Well, for example; lets say that a ‘highly charged emotion’ (whether negative or positive) can possibly linger after physical death (which I personally think is possible), would this necessarily mean that it must have accompanying emotions to enable it to reason or think? I would be highly sceptical of this (and again this is my personal view) because the possible existence of one fragment of being (an emotion or thought form) should not necessarily imply that all the other fragments attached to it in ‘earthly life’ (and which originally gave recognised intelligence to a complete being, rather ‘earthly being’) could have survived in complete form. In other words, a powerful emotion or emotional state might well survive physical death of the body, but it is simply that; a disembodied emotion without any active intelligence. Alright, when such an emotion (albeit really ‘long dead‘) is picked up by some sensitive people, it is put down to being an intelligent ghost or spirit, but this might not be the case at all.

If you are asking about different states of consciousness that survive after death, this is really a totally different matter. I cannot really answer that for you here as it means going into that age-old question of life after death. I can only say to that, that consciousness is always complete; it cannot be otherwise. Without consciousness none of us would be here or could have been brought into existence. In fact, that same consciousness that survives after physical death, is the same that existed before we were born, and brought us all into existence.

So, no. I can only answer you by saying that I do not believe that ghosts as such are departed spirits somehow caught on the earthly plane because they cannot ‘move on’. Certain strong emotional states might survive the death of the physical body, I agree. But these are not intelligent as such; they are merely unintelligent thought forms that only exist at all because they were nurtured in human life. We should perhaps not think this so strange. After all, ‘thought forms’ exist now, whilst we are all living. These are not physical as such, so in this respect are not fully dependent on the physical body. It is highly likely that some of these can get ‘left behind’ to be picked up – even witnessed – by other people.

Well, I hope I have answered your questions as concisely as possible.

For the moment,

David (Farrant)

  • reply Hesselius ,

    Many thanks for your thoughtful and insightful responses to the points I raised David, much appreciated and very interesting!

    I think another aspect of the matters we are discussing here is the ‘cyclic’ nature of ghostly manifestations – you know how certain hauntings are said to occur at specific nights of the year, so we are looking at a kind of cycle of energies, imprinted upon the atmosphere by a traumatic event or strong emotion which replays itself out again and again, like a looped recording? What do you think about these kinds of recurring ghostly phenomenon at certain sites?

    I’m inclined to agree with you about the matter of ‘active intelligence’ or lack thereof in most ghostly and spectral manifestations, although the whole phenomenon of ghosts documented through the long ages of mankind is so vast that I guess we may actually be dealing with a number of non-material phenomenon which overlap in some cases.

    Thanks for your thoughts David and keep up the good work. Your blog makes very stimulating reading. Hope your writing is proceeding well and your new book is taking shape nicely…

    All the Best,
    Hesselius

    • reply David Farrant ,

      “Many thanks for your thoughtful and insightful responses to the points I raised David, much appreciated and very interesting!
      I think another aspect of the matters we are discussing here is the ‘cyclic’ nature of ghostly manifestations – you know how certain hauntings are said to occur at specific nights of the year, so we are looking at a kind of cycle of energies, imprinted upon the atmosphere by a traumatic event or strong emotion which replays itself out again and again, like a looped recording? What do you think about these kinds of recurring ghostly phenomenon at certain sites?
      I’m inclined to agree with you about the matter of ‘active intelligence’ or lack thereof in most ghostly and spectral manifestations, although the whole phenomenon of ghosts documented through the long ages of mankind is so vast that I guess we may actually be dealing with a number of non-material phenomenon which overlap in some cases.
      Thanks for your thoughts David and keep up the good work. Your blog makes very stimulating reading. Hope your writing is proceeding well and your new book is taking shape nicely…
      All the Best,
      Hesselius”

      Dear Hesselius,
      The question of ‘active intelligence’ in haunting is an exceedingly difficult one, but I have a few thoughts upon it. Recently I was asked to do some research into the kabbalists of mediaeval Spain: they held that there were three parts to the soul, the Nephesh, the Ruach and the Neshamah. The Neshamah is the truly immortal soul, which after death goes on to a better plane. It may take a few days, weeks or months to do this, hence reports of manifestations of recently deceased people, however I do not believe that it can hang around for decades or centuries. Yet one does get reports of ghosts of people who died, say, in the 1940s, or the 1500s, which I would take to be one of the lower souls, the Ruach or the Nephesh, which ultimately have no business after the death of the body, and are just empty shells hanging around, possibly making a nuisance of themselves.

      Gareth J. Medway

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